If musk actually says "Heil H**ler" while doing the nazi salute, what do you think r/conservative will do?

I just searched "nazi salute" on r/conservative... and its just such insane denialism...

Like, what if musk just do the "Heil H**ler" too?

I wonder what excuses they'll make then?

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Fake News?

Deepfake?

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r/conservative should be renamed to r/neonazi

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You can say "hitler" here, the advertisers won't murder you.

Clueless mods are all over lemmy.

There was one user whose username was "DragonFucker" or something, and another user addressed them with their username, the comment was removed and they got banned... 🙄

Don't want this to get taken out of context and seem like I'm actually saying the HH phrase, so using asterisks is to indicate I'm not actually trying to saying the phrase.

There was one user whose username was “DragonFucker” or something, and another user addressed them with their username, the comment was removed and they got banned… 🙄

They got unbanned and the comments got restored IIRC

"He could mean anyone named Hitler, there's tons of em!"

They will say he actually said “smell didler” while waving to the crowd.

Probably just say he was joking.

This is what I think would be most probable too. It's still too socially stigmatized to outright say something that effectively just means "I'm a Nazi," so they'd have to play it off as some kind of joke.

I do, however, think a lot of them would suddenly, for no reason in particular, begin saying things like "Well, Hitler was a bad guy, but he did have *some* good ideas..." while going on to describe some of the worst ideas known to man.

*The Apollo program was done by Nazis and that wasn't so bad* /s

Well, it certainly explains a lot about SpaceX's success...

He did built a shit ton of highways so he couldn't be that bad

NO ONE LOOK INTO WHAT HE SAID HE NEEDED THE HIGHWAYS FOR

The answer might shock you.

Just like, uh, lightning would.

c/fuckcars strongly objects.

I suspect there isn’t much overlap between c/fuckcars and r/conservatives

you think swasticar hakencruiser glazers don't hate cars!? why ever not!? could it be your years of life experience and being able to see patterns?

"Even hitler cared about germany... or something..."

Well, after they wash the jizz out of their pants, they'll probably try to gaslight us into thinking it was just a joke and he was doing a parody and we're just too dumb and librul to understand.

“A masterclass in owning the woke snowflakes”, or something like that

“He was just joking bro, don’t be such a snowflake.”

"He's just trolling."

Meh I'm sure half of the Republicans would just say that a dictatorship is better for the economy and not care how it hurts people.

This dictatorship helps *me*... at least against *you*, so it's good.

"Oh no, he was just saying 'hail hit her.' Because one of his ex-wives got hit by frozen rain that one time."

Or some ridiculous mental gymnastics horse shit like that.

People forget that how we got "Let's go, Brandon."

I don't think that's accurate. It's more the fact that our media is so afraid to call out fascists and Nazis they'll literally invent an implausible scenario...

hail hit her

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And they'll say the hand gesture is just "pointing at sky to desmontrate how the hail fell on her"

it was an awkward verbal tic

He's *autistic,* let's be a little more respectful of people with mental illness?

Using his autism as a shield while insulting autistic people by calling it a mental illness in the same sentence, brilliant.

Already prep response:

So we agreed he has no place running anything?

I’d guess they would start saying Hitler was a really good guy.

Wooooooow, how ableist of you. Don't you know he has autism and ADHD? He obviously didn't know what he was doing.

If you're on ketamine you can't be hold accountable for your actions *taps head*

More likely would be "heil Trump". Validating Trump as Fuhrer of America. Conservatives might be ok with this. Watch for congress to burn, and blame on DNC, that results in banning the party.

"No, you misheard. He said 'Kyle Kitler.' What? No. I have no idea who that is either."

They’d suddenly become autism experts

“OMG HE SAID IT!!!!” and various posts celebrating it. Go look on 4chan’s random board and Im sure you’ll get a preview

He's doing it ironically to own the libs and mock them for thinking he was a Nazi.

The playbook isn't all that deep.

Reach into their bottomless bag of excuses.

They're not big on accountability or accepting loss. Or educating themselves.

More likely at this point, he'd do "Heil Musk!"

Trump is just a tool. In so many definitions.

Jizz their pants, presumably.

"He made an awkward statement / expression" Would be the statement posted to win the platinum medal in mental gymnastics. Just exceeding gold medals at this point.

r/conservative should be renamed to r/neonazi

Nah, The Neonazis like what he did and are open about it.

Its more like r/Neonazis_in_denial

They would just say Elon was saying like "my heart goes out to you" or something

Oh wait...

Like, what if musk just do the “Heil H**ler” too?

They would congratulate on his language skills.

How has /r/kanye been taking the “I love Hitler tweet?” Probably similar to that

They will all put on their 'I luv hitler' tshirts and join in. It's the GOP duh!!!

They will just deny it ever happening and say it’s taken out of context. He can’t possibly be a Nazi because he likes Israel. And if it happened (which it did not), it’s not important. Libs are so easily triggered these days.

They would just claim he has Nazi Tourette's.

"The left just looove to call people racists and Nazis, and he gave them exactly what they were asking for and now they're losing their minds. He's the world's biggest troll! *I* think it was hilarious, honestly - sure, he probably shouldn't have done it, *yeah*, it wasn't pc, but you call people Nazis long enough, what do you expect. Everyones a Nazi, everyone's racist, meanwhile you've got liberals voting for people who sleep their way into positions of power and politicians who want to bus in votes from Mexico. It's all bullshit smoke and mirrors. Politicians are *all* dirty. I like Trump because he doesn't care what the mainstream thinks- he'll burn it all down if he needs to to drain the swamp, and he's doing it while thumbing his nose at the political establishment with statements like this."

Perfection

I just realized that you said Musk and not Trump. But honestly, a Trump supporter would probably hear "mumble mumble said Heil Hitler mumble" and assume you were talking about Trump anyway. I'm going to leave it as-is.

It’s just bots at this point. They ban anyone with a brain. Got banned from there like 8 years ago for posting a tweet by Trump that criticized his actions during his first term. Banned within 2 min.

"Well, he did give us the Volkswagen."

Exhale a collective sigh of relief, and say "Finally a US President who gets us."

They’d do the same. Fucking worthless traitor cunts.

He would yell heil füer and claim he's talking about Trump, not Hitler

I don't know about the conservatives but the press and 'centrists' will probably go "Hmmm maybe it's just autism. Surely he didn't really mean it. No, can't be. I can't think of any past behaviour of his that would make this seem intentional. Autistic people do nazi salutes and say heil hitler all the time."

If you want to do a pointless hypothetical, at least make it ethically interesting.

What if Harris did the Natzi salute while shouting "Heil Hitler!" before the election? No change in policy or anything else.

Would you rather vote for Harris doing a Natzi salute or Trump doing Trump things? Words or actions? Or would you give up and not vote at that point?

JAQing off much?

Nobody cares about the dems or harris or anything at this point. The fascists are the fascists, trump or not.

JAQing off much?

As opposed to the post I am commenting on? :D

As depicted very well in this article:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

You‘re redirecting the conversation towards the dems instead of answering OPs question or engaging in any meaningful conversation.

So yes, in strong opposition to the article you are commenting on.

Just asking questions (also known as JAQing off, or as emojis: "🤔🤔🤔"[1]) is a way of attempting to make wild accusations acceptable (and hopefully not legally actionable) by framing them as questions rather than statements. It shifts the burden of proof to one's opponent; rather than laboriously having to prove that all politicians are reptoid scum, one can pull out one single odd piece of evidence and force the opponent to explain why the evidence is wrong.

Which one fits this definition better? The original post that takes one single odd piece of evidence in the form of Musks controversial "Nazi salute" and asks questions about whether r/conservatives would support overt Nazism and even abandons the facade and answers its own questions by saying we should rename the subreddit?

Or my comment that is very clearly hypothetical and primarily intended to make fun of the original post (since I did not know the term "JAQing off" and I find it more fun to create a comment people either have to think about or hypocritically criticize for the thing they are doing themselves, instead of being a nerd and linking to obscure wikis about argumentation).

You are projecting my dude 🤣

Yours, obviously. Conservatism is the political „right“ wing. Fascists are the „extreme right wing“.

Asking if a very close relative to fascism is going to do mental gymnastics to somehow normalize even more fascism is neither new nor is it controversial. Thats how it went for more than a hundred years.

Then trying to steer the discussion towards the US democrats (still right wing from an objective position) is not only unproductive, it is obvious trolling.

What I dont understand is that your other posts dont seem to fit a classic fascist troll so I suppose its either a misunderstanding, a pedantic trigger or the account was hacked.

They’ll probably just recycle the same excuses the neoliberals have been using to excuse Nazis in Ukraine for years. Probably start in with the “nuance” bullshit arguments.

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Sometimes do you stop to wonder what your point is, or do you just word vomit on a semi-related matter and hope to get lucky?

If Biden supported genocide & Kamala said she would do the samesies, what would Democrats do?

See, you mistake being in the pocket of oligarchs with supporting genocide. Not the same thing.

Biden didn't send weapons & money to Israel to commit genocide & have his cabinet veto UN security council resolutions to end the genocide? I mean he's literally on camera saying he's a proud Zionist. He didn't earn the name Genocide Joe for no reason.

Vote for Trump to end democracy?